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    Jeff VanDrimmelen 10:44 pm on July 27, 2011 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , wiki   

    So I wanted to start adding some content, but wasn’t sure how we were going to structure it. Do we want to add a wiki like functionality that others could edit? That would seem best.

    I can install this plugin on the site. We use it at UNC-CH and it seems to work well. http://premium.wpmudev.org/project/wordpress-wiki

    Then we could have a few wiki’s with their own sub-pages.

    • Why WordPress (I would take some of the recent thread on wp-edu listserv and add it in there to give us a structure
    • Getting Started (this would include some plugins all sites should have, server setup, etc.)

    Kind of like our documentation resource for those looking to get started. Then the forums are for those with problems. What do y’all think?

    • Avatar of Helen Hou-Sandi

      Helen Hou-Sandi 8:33 am on July 29, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      If that’s a WP Wiki plugin that works, I say go for it! Those sound like great getting started pages. I just hope I don’t mess anything up while mucking with the theme :D

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      Jay Collier 9:31 am on July 30, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      Have you considered Boone’s BP Docs plugin? It’s free, and integrated right into the group functions.


      Worth a look.

      • Avatar of Helen Hou-Sandi

        Helen Hou-Sandi 9:55 am on July 30, 2011 Permalink | Reply

        Ohhhh hmmm that does sound nice. Is that usable on general pages, though?

        • Avatar of Jay Collier

          Jay Collier 8:52 am on August 2, 2011 Permalink | Reply

          Only available within groups. Of course, a public group with open membership could serve as a general space.

      • Jeff 11:20 am on August 1, 2011 Permalink | Reply

        Is there an example site somewhere of how this works and what it looks like?

        • Avatar of Jay Collier

          Jay Collier 8:53 am on August 2, 2011 Permalink | Reply

          Let me get a space set up in my current BuddyPress project for you to look over.

          BTW, I’m not getting e-mail notifications when there are replies, so I might be a little delaye in getting back to your questions.

          • Avatar of Helen Hou-Sandi

            Helen Hou-Sandi 10:42 am on August 2, 2011 Permalink | Reply

            Yeah, email notifications appear not to be working on P2 with this particular plugin. Will try to figure out another way to get them working.

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          Jay Collier 10:24 am on August 2, 2011 Permalink | Reply

          Here’s a public example of Boone’s Docs (wiki) plugin:


          Let me know if you’d like me to add you as a user to a hidden group so you can try it out.

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    Jeff VanDrimmelen 5:19 pm on March 14, 2011 Permalink | Reply  

    What topics should we discuss on our Wednesday call (4:30 CT, 5:30 ET)?

    • Next Steps
    • Functionality of the Site
    • Involving Others
    • Kyle Jones 7:00 pm on March 16, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      AND I missed the meeting :(
      Cliff notes?

      • Avatar of Helen Hou-Sandi

        Helen Hou-Sandi 10:56 pm on March 16, 2011 Permalink | Reply

        We’ll wait to do it with you :) Perhaps tomorrow? I’m going to try to write out some topic ideas here as well, though.

        • Kyle Jones 12:00 pm on March 17, 2011 Permalink | Reply

          I’ll keep Skype open all day. Just sitting at my desk writing a lit review – PLEASE interrupt me.

    • Avatar of Helen Hou-Sandi

      Helen Hou-Sandi 10:56 pm on March 16, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      • How to feature selected external articles – probably should not be uncurated complete feeds. Perhaps leverage the link post format in WP 3.1?
      • Types of content: showcase, articles, plugins (vetted, example use cases), themes?
      • Use categories: LMS, blogs, in-house social networking, CMS
      • Content from dev.wpmued.org and Jay Collier’s spreadsheet
      • Kyle Jones 12:04 pm on March 17, 2011 Permalink | Reply

        >Selected external articles = maybe FeedWordPress can put posts in draft mode for review?
        >Agreed on the types of content
        >By in-house social networking do you mean Intranet?
        >Yea, that spreadsheet is GOLDEN

        • Avatar of Jeff VanDrimmelen

          Jeff VanDrimmelen 6:45 am on March 18, 2011 Permalink | Reply

          Agreed. FeedWordPress can certainly put things in review status. Then we can set a draft notifier to let us know so we can go in and approve it.

          Re: Social Networking ==> Buddypress seems to be the biggest one.

          As for the spreadsheet. Will we make it editable, or just copy the content and link back to it for future reference. Or embed it somehow…

        • Avatar of Helen Hou-Sandi

          Helen Hou-Sandi 12:16 pm on March 18, 2011 Permalink | Reply

          Jeff – would you like to compile some feeds for FeedWordPress and get that set up?

          I think we could probably just embed the spreadsheet for now – I’ll look into ways to output the content in a prettier way or parse it somehow. The showcase would take care of really focusing on an example, anyway.

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    Jeff VanDrimmelen 8:33 pm on September 15, 2010 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , forums   

    Forums… Thoughts, Suggestions 

    Helen and Kyle have been great and put together a great start to the forums. I made an outline in the google doc (that is currently serving as our wiki). Go and check it out and add your thoughts to what would make a good start to the forums. https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=1bsJv0nUb5Z-CdZB2XD6GcU3XP8kQiw9RDL9fyEhQDGY&hl=en&authkey=CJ-jwKkJ

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      Jeff VanDrimmelen 8:35 pm on September 15, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      This is what we have so far by the way.

      - Free
      - Premium

      - Free
      - Premium

      Tips, Tricks, and Hacks

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      - Learning Management System
      - Scholar Community
      - Blog
      - Other

      - Newbies
      - Educators
      - Developers
      - Media Specialists

    • Avatar of Helen Hou-Sandi

      Helen Hou-Sandi 6:03 pm on September 16, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      This sounds great! Thanks for getting that going, Jeff. Regarding groups for these to live in (per your comment below), would one per topic be overkill? Plugins and themes could probably be one group each, but I could see each of the other topics being a group as well.

      • Jeff VanDrimmelen 10:44 pm on September 16, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        I am worried that one group per topic might be to much. Some thing might be good like that though. Like a Dev group, a Media Specialist group. But I am still thinking 1 major group with all these forums in it would be best so folks don’t have to join a ton of groups…

      • Avatar of Kyle Jones

        Kyle Jones 1:49 pm on September 17, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        I’m not sure it would really be a detriment to the site architecture if some of those listed actually do become an individual group, especially if they’re organically created and not premeditated by us.

        Also note that a group has social components to it that a simple forum topic lacks: defined membership, activity streams, ability to have multiple forum topics, plus more features if we build it/plug it in.

        Using a simple forum post limits the potentially charged dynamic nature of the topic at hand.

      • Avatar of Helen Hou-Sandi

        Helen Hou-Sandi 1:52 pm on September 17, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        I feel like it’ll keep the forums more organized to have them split into most/all of those groups – otherwise, doesn’t it just become one gigantic list of topics? I suppose I might be wrong – don’t have much bbPress experience, but that seems to be what I usually see.

        • Avatar of Kyle Jones

          Kyle Jones 1:55 pm on September 17, 2010 Permalink | Reply

          No, you’re right. Forum topics can be tagged, but the theme would have to support that. A general forum area is “nice”, but organization provides better knowledge management – and, I’d say, a happier community.

    • Jeff VanDrimmelen 12:43 pm on September 17, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      On the topic of forums I ran across this plugin recently. Anyone tested it out? Might be easier than working about groups for forums… http://cartpauj.com/projects/mingle-forum-plugin/

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    Jeff VanDrimmelen 2:02 pm on September 14, 2010 Permalink | Reply

    BuddyPress is installed now. Any suggestions for what theme we should use on the main site? A default buddypress one, or another one with buddypress components integrated into it.

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      Kyle Jones 3:22 pm on September 14, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      I think we need to stick with the default until we firm up the content architecture. At that time we can look into what components design wise are necessary, optional, or superfluous.

      Extra questions to consider (later on perhaps):
      Are we looking to make a theme BuddyPress aware?
      Are we looking to purchase a theme?
      If purchased, is this a collective piggy bank discussion that needs to be had?

    • Avatar of Helen Hou-Sandi

      Helen Hou-Sandi 4:17 pm on September 14, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Agreed – let’s use a default BuddyPress-integrated theme for now and allow content to help us shape what we’ll want for a theme/design. I would guess that our best bet will be to modify an existing theme to fit our needs (or even use a framework). I know enough to be able to do this for WP, although I’d have to learn more about BP to unify the two myself – I bet somebody out there can help as well, though. I think if we can avoid having to worry about paying for something just yet, that’d be nice :)

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      Jeff VanDrimmelen 8:21 am on September 15, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Thanks for activating the theme. Looks good. I have enabled Groups and installed the Forum. Now to decide what groups go in there. Newbie’s, Plugin’s, etc.?

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        Helen Hou-Sandi 10:37 am on September 15, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        I think some audiences, some usage, and some content-related stuff.

        Audiences: newbies, educators, developers, media specialists (maybe a better name for those communications-type?), students? (that may wander outside the site scope, but could be interesting)

        Usage: WP in the classroom (blogs and e-learning/Blackboard-esque usage), WP as CMS, WP as blog (i.e. in-house magazines/publications), Other (what could that be? we can find out!)

        Content: Plugins, Themes, BuddyPress (probably deserving of its own area), Multisite-specific (?), Functions and Hacks, Integrating other applications (e.g. MediaWiki)

        I’m sure there’s overlap in there (e.g. how many non-devs are worrying about Functions and Hacks), but those are my thoughts for the moment.

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